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On today’s episode we talk about what it’s like to be a doula. Get to know us a little better and what our day to day looks like. If you are a doula or interested in becoming one this is a great episode for you!
Join as we discuss:
Resources Mentioned:
Guide to out of Hospital Birth use code PODCAST20 for 20% off!
Looking for more? Check us out on Youtube & visit the blog for show notes and transcript
Connect:
Into the Labyrinth Birth Services
Brigitte- Instagram & Facebook
Free downloads:
Holistic Birth and Beyond Freebies
Into the Labyrinth Birth Playlist
Holistic Birth & Beyond’s Spotify
Looking for more? Check us out on Youtube & visit the blog for show notes and transcript
Connect:
Holistic Birth and Beyond, LLC
Into the Labyrinth Birth Services
Brigitte- Instagram & Facebook
Allison 0:17
Welcome back to the Holistic Birth Podcast. This is episode 20 and it's our last episode of season two. Can't believe we're here.
Brigitte 0:54
I know crazy. Time flies.
Allison 0:57
Today we're going to kind of talk about a day in the life of a doula. It'd be kind of helpful for you to get to know your hosts a little bit better and see what our day to day is like. And it might be interesting for people who are curious about how the heck this is a profession and a career, what do you do? You know, so we are going to help answer some some questions or some curiosities you might have.
Brigitte 1:21
Yeah, definitely. So. So Allison, tell us about HBB, Holistic Birth & Beyond. So you have a doula agency, you also do placenta encapsulation. You're here at Wellness Village, so there's like other modalities that are here, too. So yeah, tell us about like, what you like you wake up on a Monday, you know, what's the first thing you do?
Allison 1:45
Mondays are my admin days. Monday morning, I do payroll for anything the week prior. So because I run a team. There's these contractors, these other doulas who are out there doing some great work with the community. So I make sure that they're getting paid, but also I invoice families for any care that was done. I typically do like check ins with my own clients on Mondays, if we haven't already been talking -- could be a too frequent check in so I might hold off. But I usually check in with clients on Mondays. If I see how their weekend went, and then I reconcile my accounts. I make sure that all my programs are talking to each other properly and that they're be nice to each other and that they're all saying the same things. So there's some financing in that. So yeah, I'm on the payroll department. I'm the HR department. I'm the community outreach. We do a lot we have a lot of a lot of times you just you don't expect to get into the business side of it. When you're a doula you are in the work because you're like, I want to educate. I want to be there for people I want to support. And we usually don't get into this because we are like, Oh my gosh, I love marketing. I love content writing!
Brigitte 2:58
The least favorite of being -- yeah, we just want to like, you know, be doulas we want to serve more people and not have to worry about marketing and contracts and all that stuff.
Allison 3:08
I'm cool with it now. I think at first it was just --
Brigitte 3:10
-- it is a little daunting at first.
Allison 3:12
It was daunting at first and I think I personally I just took my time I'm a very type A I like to be organized and prepared person. So any, any chance I get to really make sure that everything's solid before I launch or before I hit send. I try my best. But I think that's where some of my other like personality traits shine is like I have the privilege of my control issues possibly coming out in making sure that I really liked the way that that email was written. I really, you know, and making sure to follow up the way that you would the frequency that I like to for any inquiries. But yeah, yeah, what is what do you do on a Monday?
Brigitte 3:54
Oh god. Um, well, I actually have two other jobs. Besides being a doula.
Allison 3:59
That's common. A lot of a lot of doulas do work other jobs.
Brigitte 4:02
Yeah. Yeah. So hopefully, eventually things will be at a point where I don't have to work those two other jobs. Although I do love one of my bosses very much. She's great. I mean, they're both fine, but I just there's one of them that I'm just particularly like, I don't ever want to leave working for you because she's just very nice to me. But anyway, so I do remote like administration work, you know, with that, so that's something that kind of happens every day, but it's your doesn't take too much of my time. But honestly, the thing that I do the most is editing this podcast. So yeah, it's a little time consuming, but I'm getting you know, pretty good at it. So okay, yeah. So yeah, kind of same thing was as you only you know, there so yeah, I kind of do my own admin work and just like checking in with clients, and you know, making sure that like, you know, emails have been sent and contracts have been signed and payments and all that kind of stuff. So it's pretty similar only I just don't have like the payroll part of it. Yeah, obviously. So kind of the boring stuff. I know.
Allison 4:59
I think I like -- I'm a productive morning person. And yeah, for some people, they cringe at that. So I'm sorry if I text you at like 6:30 or 7 in the morning but my brain starts going fast. But I know it's for a lot of doulas we kind of are we have some flexibility in our schedule. Obviously being on call, we have to be flexible by default. But, whether you're doing like, postpartum work or you're having the other, the other, like aspects and components of doula work, there's a lot of flexibility. So we could meet someone in their home for a prenatal visit, we can meet them out for lunch, we could potentially, like come do something in the evening for like a class where we're doing like a one on one thing. So we do have some flexibility. So I know for me, probably similar to you, everyday is not the same.
Brigitte 5:47
No, it's not. It's super different every day. So I'm like, you asked me a question. I'm like, I don't know, Monday, some Mondays look totally different. So it's just like, all depends on what has unfolded over the weekend or whatever. But yeah, and it's funny, because when I, you know, started, like, doing any sort of work or whatever, I was like, I am never getting a job where I have to work on the weekends. I don't care what it is. I'm not doing it. But that's out the window now. And I don't mind it. Like, you know, I definitely a lot of my clients can't meet until the weekends because they're working during the day or whatever. So, and I don't he's just decided babies. Yeah, yeah, babies are just like, I don't care what date and time of day it is. Or, you know, what day of the week, so yeah, they, they come in, they want. Yeah, but yeah, it's, I don't, you know, it doesn't feel like work to me, honestly. Like, I just I love doing this work. And yeah, it's not like, it's not something that I'm like, dreading doing ever. So yeah. Yeah.
Allison 6:38
That's a good sign.
Brigitte 6:39
It is a good sign. Yeah, cuz I mean, I do feel like a lot of doulas do get, you know, kind of burnt out a bit. And that's why you started the agency because you wanted to kind of help doulas, you know, have that sustainability.
Allison 6:50
And truthfully, it was also something I needed at the time too because I could not sustain the client load that I was taking. I do have a hard time saying no. And I do want to show up for people. And so I was Yeah, I was doing like five, six, sometimes seven births a month plus postpartum care. That was --
Brigitte 7:06
Yeah, that's a lot.
Allison 7:07
It wasn't sustainable. I did it as in it worked out like I was able to be everywhere. I was definitely depleted. And yeah, any off time I had, I was mostly trying to reground or catch up on emails and making sure that things were going smoothly. So I needed to scale back myself. But that's something that doulas we you kind of learn over time is what kind of client load works best for you so that you you're able to commit yourself as best as you can to the clients that are on your roster so to speak. Who's on your calendar? And a lot of people you're you might not just do birth doula work. Some people are also childbirth educators. I know you do like, like vaginal steaming stuff you do like homeopathy you do? Closing the bones and you do all kinds of stuff too, so like every doula does have other things that they might do to kind of make themselves well rounded in their own way for their own specialty or style. Continuing education is also another thing I personally am always reading on, like evidence based birth, like their website.
Brigitte 8:15
Lots of research. I like I learned from my clients so much, because everybody has different questions around things. And it's just like, really cool to kind of dive in and, like, find information for them. And like, just learn things. I love learning, I am really big on learning things. And when I have a particular topic that I am, like, interested in, I dive like headfirst into it. And I'm, like, immersed in it, like, you know, becoming a doula in and of itself was just like, I got very immersed in it. And I like just read the books constantly and you know, watch the videos and took the classes and like, just dove headfirst into it, like, get very passionate about things, which takes up a lot of time sometimes. And I do sometimes forget to, like, take care of myself. So that's like, you know, a really important aspect of being a doula is self care. So what kind of what kind of ways do you do self care?
Allison 9:11
Yeah, I think everyone does things differently, for sure. But there, there's definitely a lot of being like a whole like holding space for people a lot of being present a lot of being plugged into your phone, trying to make sure that you're responding to anything that's urgent or emergent, or if it's not, it's still you still want to be there for people. So it's, I find that telling my clients, I'm happy to text them anytime throughout the day. Until you know, X amount of time at night or Yeah, obviously, if it's emergent text or call for sure. It's not that I'm not there, but if they're like, hey, like, I have a quick question. Whenever you get a chance about, you know, how to swaddle, like at nine o'clock at night texts that just pops into their head. They just want to get the question out. They don't need the answer right now and they don't expect it but I think it's just for me being able to turn my brain off a little bit. Yeah have some boundaries. Yeah, having some boundaries and it does help with like having more like higher quality like family time. After a birth I typically when I'm on that car ride home, most of the time it's silent in the car. Yeah, I don't have any music playing. I don't have a podcast going i i really just I roll down the windows, if I need the fresh air to wake me up if I'm kind of going to be a little sleepy on the way home. Yeah, I have sometimes I've like pulled over or I've talked on the phone with my husband for an hour because that's the car ride length. And I just need someone to talk at me. So I'm listening and engaged. So yeah, at home. Yep. But yeah, it's it's that decompressing time making sure that everything that we witness is usually very vulnerable, very raw. Yeah. And I'm comfortable in that place. Because I like the vulnerability I like to people on deeper levels. And if we're only talking about the weather all day long I that actually exhausts me.
Brigitte 11:01
I know it's draining. It's just like, ah, yeah, like, I don't really care about the weather.
Allison 11:05
It's just the surface stuff. And obviously, that's, that is always wonderful to layer in, it's fine. But I personally, I love getting deep with my clients and getting deep with just the people in my life. So, being able to sit in that is really special, and it comes easier. But obviously, there still needs to be time where you're kind of finding a moment to reset and kind of process whatever birth or postpartum thing that you witnessed. Sometimes it's really positive and you're just like, wow, like, I'm so proud. They did so great. Not that I have any ownership on what they did. But yeah, I'm just so impressed. You know, and having that kind of, ah, so that's sometimes is great. So I might cry about that on the way home like, wow, that was so they she's so strong, or I love the way that they're there the relationship between the partner, sometimes you just miss that. Yeah, you just like feel like such transcendence in that relationship. And just being able to watch them find their power is really incredible. Yep, definitely. On the flip side, there are still some challenging things that we come across.
Brigitte 12:12
It does, yeah, it definitely comes with the territory, we do see a lot of stuff that cannot be not so great. So I mean, we do our best to advocate for our clients and stuff. But sometimes stuff just happens or it's not even that it's more like just something, you know, traumatic happens in birth, like there's something wrong with the baby or, you know, things just don't go as planned. And that can be hard because it mean, it's an emotional thing for a lot of people obviously, you know, again, it's very vulnerable process. So yeah, it's, um, it can be, you know, a lot for them to process but we're holding so much space for them that you sometimes you do take it on. It's hard not to take it on as a doula. So yeah, but that's, you know, that's part of it. And we do love that about our work. And I like just like you, I love being like, in that vulnerable space with people. I'm like that with my friendships, I don't like surface level friendships. I love to really like dive deep with people and get vulnerable and like, it just creates that connection. I just love that like raw connection with with people. It's just, I like that. It's just so nice to connect with others like that.
Allison 13:18
I think there are some doulas who are like, I love babies. And that's great. Yeah. And there are some people who are like, Oh my gosh, you're a doula. You must love babies. And it's true. We do love babies. You know, who doesn't love a baby? Yeah, but at the same time,
Brigitte 13:30
I know some people who don't love babies.
Allison 13:34
Yes, I don't want to assume.
Brigitte 13:35
But I don't talk to those people. (laughter)
Allison 13:38
They exist. They're out there. They're valid. But I think on the flip side, I know that some people just assume that we only like to hold babies or watch babies be born sometimes. It's not even about looking at the baby be born. It's about like, right, watching this person go through this transformation, finding their power, trying to figure out how to navigate everything that's been thrown their way, to see the connection between them and their partner. It's like there's a different level and to be able to hold them rather than just hold babies is like it's very important. Because you deserve to be held.
Brigitte 14:12
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And you're just spending so much time getting to know these people and like literally the most like life changing event you know, so like it's there's really nothing out there like it I feel like yeah, like it's just one of those things and yeah, I mean, being a doula is hard work. You know, we definitely were on call or up balls for days sometimes and but it's so worth it. It's really really worth it. And I think we're duels have so much trouble with sustainability is because of like you said, like kind of the back end of things like having to do the marketing and the contracts and the payments and like that kind of stuff. And then, you know, not doing the self care, not setting boundaries, just getting burned out. For me like self care is like just going for a hike being in nature. are just kind of clearing my head being in the quiet, petting my dogs, you know, I have a homestead. So going out my garden and just like poking around out there every morning when like the mornings are cool in the summertime, like those are the little things that kind of like reset me so I can get back into the day and face whatever, whatever it is whether good or bad, you know, just Yeah, it's holding space for other people's, you know, it's a big deal. So it's a big deal. Yeah.
Allison 15:24
And it's helpful to find moments to reset so that you're, it's almost like there's a clear slate going into the next client. Yeah, so like, I'm gonna say sometimes, like having even just prenatal visits when they're back to back, if I've got like two or three in one day, and people are coming. I have like office space. So when people come and meet me here, sometimes it's like, we just unpacked so much with one client or they just process something from a previous birth or you're kind of sharing like some crazy exciting things that are going on like it can that conversation can be so drastically different from the next person you meet with. Right that there does have to be reset, where you're now kind of like holding space it like you're, you're kind of open again to like what, what is this person going through today? Or currently in the moment?
Brigitte 16:08
Yeah, yeah, it's important to take care of ourselves. So that way we can be present and have the energy, the space, you know, we got to fill our cups up first before we can help others. So yeah, super important. So there's probably some doulas out there listening to this if you are, you know, take note. Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely take note, take care of yourself.
Allison 16:30
And I mean, the community of doulas. I think that is a day in the life of a doula... I also think of like, when you're doula-ing other doulas or when --
Brigitte 16:38
Tou especially you're so good at doula-ing other doulas.
Allison 16:43
Thank you! But like it's, we've talked about the sustainability of this. We've talked about, like different ways to make in truthfully, you, you really can't do this work alone, you can try. But you're also risking, like not being able to be there for your client and not having how having no one be able to solidly back you up if you're sick and you were scheduled for a postpartum shift, then that's out the window. Because maybe maybe they're fine with it. I have a lot of clients who are like that will just switch to another day. No worries. But if they were really counting on your care, or it's an overnight and they there was the one overnight a week that they needed you for and it was like, you know, they really were counting on it. Like, it can feel hard to not be able to be there and we try everything, we bust our butts to get to you. We do all the things but we're also human. And if there's a medical emergency come up, if there's a death in the family, if there's another birth or something going on where you were required somewhere else first, then it can be it can be very hard to feel like you're not sure about the support that then that person is getting. So that's why our community is so important. We've really, I think we have a good area for a lot of doulas that really care for each other and for the families that their doula peers are caring for we really, we really help lift each other up. And we do yeah, I've had a lot of doulas call me I've called a lot of doulas for like, I just need to process and kind of talk through something in this scenario where this kind of, you know, pause is happening in labor, like we tried this, this and this, like, Are there any other ideas you can think of? Or I just was at this, like, you know, postpartum visit? And I was I was wondering, like, Do you have any resources for like, there's such good community and group thinking that can happen? And I know that you probably agree, but like, it's always collaboration over competition.
Brigitte 18:26
I was gonna say that. Yeah, yeah. It's what's the one thing I love about this community, like, I've done a few things in my life, you know, I was a vet tech for a while. I did equine and canine massage. And there was always competition with other people. And in this community, there has been none of that, like everybody is just like, so helpful. And you just feel so fully supported. And yeah, like, it's just everyone wants to connect and meet each other. And like, I mean, to be a duel, you have to have a sense of compassion and empathy and all of those things. Obviously, you know, if you you, you know, if you're getting into this, I would think you would have those traits anyway. Usually, that's usually Yeah, the core building blocks. Yeah, exactly. Because you're Yeah, again, space holding you have to like be very empathetic and compassionate and open minded to is another big thing. But yeah, so like, it's just it's been amazing, like, just really connecting with everybody in the community. And, you know, I can't say that it's the same way because I mean, the birth community and in general, there's a lot of opinions out there and a lot of thoughts on things, but I feel like because maybe it's not so intense with doulas is because we are like evidence based more so like we definitely have our biases. Some doulas you know think that everyone should home birth and some think that you know, hospitals are great and that you shouldn't home birth is dangerous. I mean, everybody has their opinions on things. But instead of just like, you know, getting on each other calling each other out for things, it's more of like okay, like we respect one another for our thoughts and our opinions on things. There's no like, animosity for that because yeah, like it's it's a high tension kind of community. Like there, a lot of people have a lot of strong feelings and thoughts around birth. So I think, you know, especially with doulas, I think we just have an understanding because we were like that with our clients, we're supporting them and all their decisions. We respect all their decisions, their, you know, their opinions about things like we're not there to judge them or make them feel bad about that, regardless of how we feel about it. So I think that we also support each other in that way.
Allison 20:23
I do think we're very lucky. I think New Hampshire specifically (that's where we're located) we're very lucky with that kind of community. And I, I don't know about you, but I've heard some horror stories about other doula communities and how --
Brigitte 20:36
I haven't heard anything bad yet. But again, I'm just in New Hampshire.
Allison 20:39
Sometimes it's kind of cutthroat. Like, if there's only like, if you're in a small town, there's only like one other doula besides you. You are, in a way they they're kind of imagining like, a yeah, there's a competition because it's either you or me, right? But, in my mind like you both probably have completely different styles or rule sets or things like why not rely on the other for the like backup?
Brigitte 21:01
Yeah, exactly.
Allison 21:03
That relationship that way, but there is a lot of there's I think it's hard because some people I there's like a scarcity mentality when it comes to clients. I think that happens a lot. When you're, when you're first starting out. You're like, I can't find anyone. I don't know how people would find me. I'm so wanting to do this, but I don't know how to be seen and be found and chosen, right? Then on the flip side, when people are really experienced. I see sometimes it's like a I mean, I've been on the receiving end of this from like a newer doula to seasoned doula perspective, where the there are people who come through and they're like, I love babies. Like, I would like to hold one. Do you have anybody I could shadow or something. And it just sounds super superficial, where they're like, in my mind, I'm like, I'm happy to help. But I'm like, I need to know you're serious, I need to know you're serious. So like, if someone reaches out like you did, and you were like, I've already taken the training, thanks for your resources. I've done what you said and, and then some, and I just, like, hit the ground running like to me, I'm like, okay, she's serious. And now like, let's, let's go, you know, but there are people who kind of are curious about the work and then I've seen some, like more seasoned doulas who kind of like shut it down a little they're like, I'm not going to hand you all the answers that it took me years to figure out so there's sometimes a little bit of like a, a dynamic there of like paying your dues, which I don't really agree with the like you should be charging like nothing like some doulas start out and they they charge nothing. Like there's just no, there's no cost. And I think if you're doing something scholarship-based or if it's you're trying to gain experience, and there's kind of like an exchange that way that you're okay with the clients. Okay, that's one thing, but there are a lot of just like a lot of different opinions still in the birth community.
Brigitte 22:50
Yeah, for sure.
Allison 22:51
I think there are people who say this is my specialty, I will not, you know, take clients who don't fully support or agree with this. I've seen other doulas that, I think it's maybe just the type of client they attract, they know that they can't use certain people as their backup, they would only use other people. But there's really every doula is very different all the specialties the way that each person might kind of bring certain things to the table. There's really, there's really no shortage of people who are birthing that no support. So you're probably going to be different than another doula. And that family is going to be different from another family. And it's just a matter of like, who's the best fit. That's why I love when I'm doing consultations for the agency. I love getting to the like the meat of it like okay, what are you looking for in your doula? What is your past experience? What are you kind of hoping for, for this experience? What are some things you're worried about? I love asking. If there are certain personality traits that really click well, because they could be the most experienced doula in the world, and still not be a good personality fit for this client. Right. And on the flip side, you could be a brand new doula, and that personality might be funny, or you might like be very calming, there might be something about you that this person was like, yes. So there is enough to go around. So yeah, using the community in a way that's going to help benefit everybody is like part of the day to day because you're constantly networking and connecting and growing with each other, ideally.
Brigitte 24:24
Yeah, and definitely on the note of like, experience versus and experience doulas. I definitely like if you are searching for a doula I would definitely suggest really considering a newer doula there. You know, I understand why people want experience like obviously you want to be with someone that's had like been present for births and like has the experience surrounding that but with that being said, a newer doula will have a little more energy. And some older doula as well be. I mean, some, you know, of course, it depends on their client load, that kind of thing. But some to be a good doula, it's not necessarily how many births you've been at. It's more of like your personality, how caring and empathetic you are and how you're willing to show up for people how attentive you are. So definitely give those like newer doulas a chance because they are so there are some really good newer doulas out there. experienced ones are great to like, you know, every like Allison said, everybody has their, you know, their different strengths and everything and it's just finding the right fit for you. But, you know, don't if you come across a doula that has like, a amazing personality, but they just don't have a ton of births under their belt, and they're just, you know, checking off all the boxes for you as far as personality and like, what you're looking for, and the kind of support you're looking for, like, really give them a chance. Because, yeah, just because they don't haven't been to like that many births. You know, they've at least probably have at least one under their belts kind of thing. So, yeah, just give them a chance. Because they're, they're definitely, you know, probably worth investing in.
Allison 25:57
And I think sometimes when people want experience, they are hoping for someone who's confident and resourceful. And and it might not be, it might not even be an X amount of births, like truthfully, you could be at five births, and they could have gone similar, every birth is very different. But you could have seen like, the same amount of level for like pain medicine, you know, pain relief, kind of options for like comfort strategies, you could have seen the same amount of like partner involvement or different things that might be coming up. You could have also been at three births. And each one was drastically different where different things we're used, different settings, like they're -- every birth does teach you something new. I'm six years in, and every birth still is like, oh, geez, that was a whole little I'll twist it. There are so different. So just because someone has a lot of experience doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to give you what you emotionally and physically and mentally need this exact way. So I always think it's great to think about like, what is your, what are your values about birth? And then does that doulas share similar values? Yes, we will -- or I my bias is -- we should support you unconditionally course despite our own biases. But if there are doulas who are more experienced, or more passionate about one thing or another, if you can find that doula that has a strong overlap with what you care about, then that's great.
Brigitte 27:22
Yeah, absolutely.
Allison 27:27
So other things in life of a doula. Lots of texting.
Brigitte 27:31
Yeah. There's lots of texts. Lots of driving texting. Yeah. Like you go pick up placentas. And yeah, what else do you do you Oh, my God, you do everything? Oh, you hold like support groups, which I actually help with, too. So I've got support groups. Yeah, I'm trying to think of what else I feel like
Allison 27:49
Social media. I have a love hate relationship.
Brigitte 27:53
Me too!
Allison 27:55
It's such a great way for people to kind of know more about this person that they might be working with. Or if they are working with this doula. It's nice to be able to see like different information pieces or personality things you can kind of, you know, build a little bit better of like an understanding of some of your options or who you're working with. But it is a lot of work on the back end, because you're trying to figure out what do people want to know about right now? What's my capacity level for consistency? Because that's important to people. I think it's kind of fun. Yeah. Tongue ties. Fun. Yeah, I think it's more like, I want to make sure I'm consistent.
Brigitte 28:35
Yeah, that can be hard sometimes trying to squeeze it in there somewhere.
Allison 28:38
different trends. So you could have two weeks scheduled out for different things. And then all of a sudden, this trend comes in, you're like, Okay, I have to roll with it. Because it's interesting. But at the same time, you could be your own person where you're like, you know, I'm not hopping on the trend. Like, I'm just gonna roll with what I have scheduled. And that's okay, too. But I think you do get a good sense of someone's personality through social media. Or if they're not on social media, maybe that does resonate with you, too.
Brigitte 29:03
Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah, some doulas aren't even on there. And they are have perfectly successful so they don't necessarily need to be on there or anything but Right.
Allison 29:13
Yeah, I think um, yeah, we will also send clients throughout the week. I feel like I'm always assessing like, which clients or how many weeks along and when should I send them certain information? I think sometimes people rely on their doula for, you know, like regular tidbits of information. If that's something you want, you can always ask your doula, can you send me the thing that might be relevant, you know, during different times or whatever, but in some doulas they, they're only like they're there for when you have questions. They're not going to like put information in your ear or in your inbox if like you were wanting it. So there's different styles with that, but I know, like different communications.
Brigitte 29:53
All right. Well, thanks, everybody for watching and listening and joining us for our second season. We're really excited to get into season three. If you have any questions for us, let us know. And we will see you in season three.
Allison 30:03
Sounds good. See you later. Bye!